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Glowdot IM Project

On these pages you'll find information related to Glowdot Productions and Rick Strom's Glowdot IM project.

Build History:

No builds at this time.

Developer Diary:

:: 07.07.2004

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Project start. Got some good ideas for this one, but the lead up to the final build will take some time.

I don't have crazy expectations for the first release, in fact I'll be happy if it allows communication between two clients (obviously), and by 0.2 (or, about 2 weeks from now) I'd like to have a basic server running that simply accepts client connections over telnet and echos all incoming text back to all connected clients. I've got a basic Unix server written in C that does just that, but I don't even want to think about adding features to C code -- at least not at this point. I could more easily monitor what's going on if I build the first server in Win32/C++ and make sure that runs, then I could later port it to standard C (or C++) which shouldn't be too difficult. But ultimately I would definitely like for there to be a *nix version of the server.

:: 07.10.2004

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Hooray for me! I got a really lame Win32 server running. As of today, it accepts connections, sends out a welcome message to the client, and adds the user to a list view control (complete with IP address and cute little green man icon :) -- important stuff).

Don't know how much further I'll be able to take it by the weekend, but still to do: creating a client class. Client class should contain:

  • SOCKET handle
  • char buffer for in/out (maybe???)
  • username
  • IP add
  • Possibly a timer to check for idle/active states

At any rate, I'm happy to find the thing accepting connections. Winsock's Async Sockets seems to be pretty grand, allowing me to handle socket functions without leaving the event model of Windows.

UPDATE: They are talking to each other!

Gotta give props to Microsoft on this one, this was the easiest chat server implementation I've ever done. Far easier than *nix in C, that's for sure. I'm sure there'll be a ton of security holes in this no matter what I do, but for getting a server up quick and easy, with a graphical monitoring system -- can't beat this.

So I had glowdot.com talking to my local XP WS here all night, then 3 XP boxes and 2 Linux boxes going at it. Of course, Windows and Linux implementations of telnet vary wildly (which makes, hmm, no sense) so I would have to account for all possible in/out possibilities, but I'm not going to worry about that for now. As of now, it takes arbitrary sized input chunks (for me, and most, one character at a time) and broadcasts them to all the connected Client objects via their sockets. Messy. It needs to store the info to the client's input buffer, and only broadcast if a newline is reached, or the buffer maxes out.

Tomorrow...

:: 07.13.2004

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Oops, lost a couple days on the project. Had some actual work to do. The kind that I get paid for, you know.

At any rate, did some more testing on the server. Pleasantly surprised with myself for getting it running, smoothly and error free, in just 2 days. It occurred to me that as it is, it makes a nice framework for any kind of server where clients need to communicate not only with the server, but with each other as well. Since its all wrapped up in a class, its a matter of adding a virtual function where the actuall data processing is done, allowing a port number to be passed into the constructor (which I was planning on doing anyways), and... that's it. Write a function to do process X with the incoming data, and you've got yourself a Windows based network server. Maybe I'll take this much of the project and make a Winsock tutorial out of this.

A timer is set to send WM_TIMER to the winproc at intervals defined in defs.h. Currently, for me, is set to do so every 5000 ms, and on WM_TIMER it increments the Client class' m_nAliveDuration value by 5000/1000 s. It also increments every object's m_nIdleDuration, which is in turn set to zero whenever FD_READ is received on the client's socket. Voila! Idle/Active state monitoring. The list view is also refreshed on WM_TIMER.

The one complaint I have about all of this is: I should have probably thought out the Client class a bit better. Or maybe there is no way around my problem, but I seem to be traversing the Clients array more often than I'd like. I have an array of MAX_CONNECTIONS pointers to Client objects, and any operations are obviously skipped if the pointer is NULL, but if the list is full (i.e. all connections are taken) we'll be travelling through that array 100, 200, 1000+ times. I know on a 3.0 GHz processor you're thinking big deal! But I (un)fortunately learned how to program when I was the big daddy on the block because I had a Commodore 128. All my friends had that ugly green 64. I learned C on a thin workstation -- the kind with no hard drive that was capable of doing a telnet off a floppy and nothing else. And I learned Intel programming when I was the big daddy on the block with my 125Mhz P-1. So I'm overly aware of wasting clock cycles and memory, even if that's not such an issue anymore. I'd like to think this server could run on that old 125, even though it uses a bunch of XP classes and XP won't run on a P-1. Besides the point. The problem, at any rate, is that when a FD_READ comes in, it comes with a socket. I need to get the associated object for that socket. I can't come up with any better way at the moment but going through the list, all wasteful like, asking each object "what is your socket number?" until one gives me the correct answer. Maybe that's just how it has to be.

Got caught up with redoing the theme for Glowdot tonight, so I can't do much more on this right now. Tomorrow's goal: whip up a quick client, and get my chat on...

Here's a screen of build 001:



:: 07.14.2004

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The early client is built, and functional. In fact, more functional than I thought. So as of now GDIM is the most basic server/multi-client chat app you could imagine. Sent the client to my sister in San Diego, and to Lena, and fired it up here at home and had a three-person chat session last night. I'd put up a screen, but I think you can visualize it without: big edit control for output, smaller edit control for input, and a nice gray button that says "Send" -- nothing that exciting as of yet. I've added a dialog at client startup that asks for the server IP and a username. Eventually this will be a login system, but for now I'd like the server to reveive the requested username and store it in the appropriate client object.

:: 07.15.2004

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Today's small victory: skinned. Ok, its a lame skin, but I'll have time to worry about that later. And my ultimate hope is that the users of this app will come up with their own skins. Kind of the point, and kind of lets me off the hook ;)

Have a peek:



That's two instances of the client running side by side on the same machine. The server, incidentally, was also running on this box (minimized to the system tray). Had a little confusion earlier today when I got about 15 instances of it going at it, then closed them in random order. Not all of the users were removed from the connections list on closing, but the NumConnections value decreased, leading me to believe it's something to do with my remove item from list code. Fix that tomorrow.

It occurred to me tonight that probably the biggest pain in all this is going to be subclassing (or creating from scratch) the edit controls to make them look the way I want. Because I'm sorry, but black courier on menu bar gray isn't cutting it.

:: 07.16.2004

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Updated skin:



Tidied up the send/recv code in both the server and client. Its frustrating when those operations work fine doing a telnet, but not from the client. But at least this is the kind of project with no shortage of initial options to try for finding problems: telnet from Unix, telnet from Windows, and use the client, and one of them will give you the answer.

So the server is receiving and resending data properly, and even processing it according to the protocol I've developed... client is sending and receiving properly also... except... except... one little issue.

I've insisted on a 300 character buffer (including the protocol header data and the newline at the end), and if more than 300 characters are read in, a newline is forced at 300, the data is processed, and the buffer is flushed. When the rest of the data comes in, it is discarded since it doesn't have any header data attached to it. But for some reason it's not working. The buffer gets stored but not sent. It is, for whatever reason, sent on the next receipt of newline, with some odd character stuck in where the newline should be. This really doesn't make sense, but I'll have at it tomorrow. The faster I get that detail worked out, the faster I can get to the really important thing, which is implementing the room users list in the client.

:: 07.22.2004

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OOPS, got caught up working on a few other things. But back to the project: when I left off, I was having a hell of a time dealing with the issue of too much data coming through. I have a 300 char buffer for each client, into which any text received on that client's socket gets stored. The question was, when do we know we've received a full transmission? Originally, I was waiting on a newline, but that didn't work. Then I waited on a \r, which didn't work either. Lovely Windows. Well, I should say everything worked fine on receipt of the character -- sometimes -- but on full buffer, it would just hold the data, then dump it to the client when the NEXT string was received. Really bizarre, and I still don't know why it was happening.

So, I've taken out all the read and write code from both the server and client. It is most important that this works properly on the server, for two reasons: I'd like to allow independent parties to write their own clients, and I'm afraid independent parties will write their own clients. Meaning, the server has to be prepared for anything, even and especially malicious clients trying to break it.

The server now expects a '\0' to terminate the transmission, or will do so on its own when the buffer is full. Any data following will be discarded as it won't contain a protocol header.

COMMENTS:

Posted by Tnd on August 23rd, 2004 at 07:40 pm PST
hi,

i am having a good time reading your stuff, spent the last 15min reading ur love affair with the "green man " ,great.
i myself got a server /client running and from what i understood u r just sending a RAW buffer and then split everything up according to ur protocol(eg:first 4 bytes indicates ip,next 2 bytes indicates Status.....)
it sure works but i dont know if it is really effecient, ill give u one hint: 'OOP'.

maybe we can have chat some time tndfr@hotmail.com


Posted by Rick Strom on August 25th, 2004 at 10:46 pm PST
Hi Tnd!

Yep, that's exactly what I'm doing. I was getting confused moving from unix socket programming to Winsock but I figured it out.

And then... and then.... the company I worked for crashed. So I got a new job and I'm settling in. THEN I'll get to return to this project, because I still think its a good one. I haven't even gotten to the big idea yet, heh, got stuck on this trivia. Blah.

Anyways, you can always reach me here or on the forums at Glowdot. I think I remembered to add that code forum!


Posted by Rick Strom on January 10th, 2005 at 07:02 pm PST
Just a quick update: this project is maybe terminally on hold. I still want to do this one, but the cash situation forbids it at the moment. You'll see it move to In Production on the main project page when I have time to return to it.

(sorry)


Posted by sv on April 03rd, 2005 at 09:09 am PST
very cool!...so sad it is on hold!...keep me updated:

soundvisionz@gmail.com

sv


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